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sinpoziumIt's that time - Sinpozium 2011 is only 10 weeks away, and plans need to be made about what we'll actually be doing, so we need your input. We need people to lead discussions, pimp fandoms and more – so, what do you wanna do at Sinpozium?
** Fandom pimps will probably be limited to a maximum of half an hour (though if you want to do less, that's fine, and they don’t need to be fancy). We strongly recommend keeping video portions of pimps to only about 15-20 minutes - this should be enough to give a feel for the fandom, anything longer and interest can really start to lag (always leave 'em wanting more!). If you can get a friend/beta to look over a presentation, a second pair of eyes really helps, particularly if you’re having problems trimming it.
** Presentations/videos/slideshows will be shown via a laptop hooked up to a data projector, so will need to be brought on disc/USB stick/external hard drive (we don't want to be switching laptops around if we can avoid it). A variety of file formats will be acceptable, more info to come (but if it can be played by VLC, that's a good indication it will be ok).
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alasen and I are hoping to include is a session for pimping book fandoms. Given that we can't really put together pimp reels for them, people would only need a few minutes each to talk about the book(s), and since these are often small fandoms, it can be a great way to lure more people in, or at least introduce them to a new author. Please let us know if you want to participate, and what book you'd like to talk about. PS - Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings are not eligible.
** Suggestions for games are welcome (slash pictionary is already pencilled in, naturally), but from experience, they need to be simple and interactive.
** New or old, doesn't matter - some of the most interesting fandom pimps I've seen at past Sinpoziums were for shows from before I was born, or introduce us to the hot new thing.
** Discussion topics that are multi-fandom are particularly good (as they're inclusive). Topics might range from serious discussions of writing or fannish trends, to which characters look the best in tight jeans. Lengths will be 30-60 minutes, depending on topics, number of suggestions and structure of final timetable.
** Suggestions for discussions/panels are more than welcome, even if you don't feel like leading the discussion yourself. If you're having a complete mental blank, I find perusing timetables from other events can help me think about stuff I'd like to participate in.
**meelie will be planning/co-ordinating a vidshow during the weekend (more info to come), but you're of course free to also use vids during fandom pimps etc.
For example, I'm gonna pimp Glee (the gayest show on tv), andalasen is thinking about trying to make everyone fall for Hawaii 5-0.
And remember, if you don't volunteer and/or suggest, you don't get to complain afterwards! :) We'll try and incorporate as much as possible from all the volunteers/suggestions, but the final timetable will be based on what we have found has worked at previous events and think is the best possible mix of everyone's interests. If there’s something you’d like to do that doesn’t seem like it’d fit with these guidelines, talk to us about it, and we’ll see what we can figure out.
** Fandom pimps will probably be limited to a maximum of half an hour (though if you want to do less, that's fine, and they don’t need to be fancy). We strongly recommend keeping video portions of pimps to only about 15-20 minutes - this should be enough to give a feel for the fandom, anything longer and interest can really start to lag (always leave 'em wanting more!). If you can get a friend/beta to look over a presentation, a second pair of eyes really helps, particularly if you’re having problems trimming it.
** Presentations/videos/slideshows will be shown via a laptop hooked up to a data projector, so will need to be brought on disc/USB stick/external hard drive (we don't want to be switching laptops around if we can avoid it). A variety of file formats will be acceptable, more info to come (but if it can be played by VLC, that's a good indication it will be ok).
** One thing
alasen and I are hoping to include is a session for pimping book fandoms. Given that we can't really put together pimp reels for them, people would only need a few minutes each to talk about the book(s), and since these are often small fandoms, it can be a great way to lure more people in, or at least introduce them to a new author. Please let us know if you want to participate, and what book you'd like to talk about. PS - Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings are not eligible.** Suggestions for games are welcome (slash pictionary is already pencilled in, naturally), but from experience, they need to be simple and interactive.
** New or old, doesn't matter - some of the most interesting fandom pimps I've seen at past Sinpoziums were for shows from before I was born, or introduce us to the hot new thing.
** Discussion topics that are multi-fandom are particularly good (as they're inclusive). Topics might range from serious discussions of writing or fannish trends, to which characters look the best in tight jeans. Lengths will be 30-60 minutes, depending on topics, number of suggestions and structure of final timetable.
** Suggestions for discussions/panels are more than welcome, even if you don't feel like leading the discussion yourself. If you're having a complete mental blank, I find perusing timetables from other events can help me think about stuff I'd like to participate in.
**
meelie will be planning/co-ordinating a vidshow during the weekend (more info to come), but you're of course free to also use vids during fandom pimps etc.For example, I'm gonna pimp Glee (the gayest show on tv), and
alasen is thinking about trying to make everyone fall for Hawaii 5-0.And remember, if you don't volunteer and/or suggest, you don't get to complain afterwards! :) We'll try and incorporate as much as possible from all the volunteers/suggestions, but the final timetable will be based on what we have found has worked at previous events and think is the best possible mix of everyone's interests. If there’s something you’d like to do that doesn’t seem like it’d fit with these guidelines, talk to us about it, and we’ll see what we can figure out.
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Date: 2011-04-04 12:01 pm (UTC)I was also hoping to talk about the otw and my experiences with volunteering, or random facts about the archive and tag wrangling, or something!
*pokes*
Date: 2011-04-04 12:27 pm (UTC)Re: *pokes*
Date: 2011-04-04 12:35 pm (UTC)Volunteering
Date: 2011-04-04 12:33 pm (UTC)Discussion topics...maybe something about fandoms based on reboots/remakes/multiple adaptions of source materials. So many of our current fandoms are old fandoms with a shiny new coat of paint - how does this change the way things are approached? Which reboots work and which don't?
Re: Volunteering
Date: 2011-04-13 11:15 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-04-04 09:05 pm (UTC)Hee! <3
*scratches wistfully at the screen*
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Date: 2011-04-05 08:51 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2011-04-05 09:59 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-05-28 10:53 pm (UTC)...
I mean, that you're still on for pimping Merlin.
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Oh fuck it, you know what I mean ;)
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Date: 2011-05-30 09:58 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-04-05 12:15 am (UTC)Also, I remember saying distinctly to
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Date: 2011-04-06 10:08 am (UTC)Honestly, it's been so long since I've played Scattegories that I can't picture that - how were you thinking it'd go?
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Date: 2011-04-06 12:08 pm (UTC)See that's the thing, I don't know how many people a con game would include...does Pictionary usually run in rounds or concurrent games or one big game? I imagine creating just replacing the regular prompts with fannish ones (eg "Anime character" or "Kink prompt"). A regular game takes up to maybe 10 people?
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Date: 2011-04-26 05:23 am (UTC)Con games have nearly always been in 1 group - like 1 person drawing the clue in slash pictionary, while everyone else guesses. We're estimating about 25-30 max at Sinpozium this time around. Maybe Scattegories would work in small groups, like 4-6 people? We're definitely thinking about how it would work and if we can include it :)
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Date: 2011-05-28 10:57 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2011-06-06 09:24 am (UTC)Just following up on this - there's not really any wireless internet available in the convention room (unless people bring their own 3g cards etc), so I'm not sure if a party would really be feasible, unfortunately. I was wondering if as an alternative you'd be willing to talk about Fanlore yourself? I was going to talk about the ao3 personally, so it'd be great to get a different otw perspective.
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Date: 2011-04-05 08:28 pm (UTC)Also, can I still stay with you the Sat and Sun nights? (Get in the Sat morn and will get train straight to the venue, assuming I remember how...) Also can we squeeze in a tiny Linda too? She's very small and cuddly.
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Date: 2011-04-05 08:51 pm (UTC)And definitely yes to to doing that, though we'll confirm the running time.
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Date: 2011-04-14 04:58 am (UTC)Three discussion topics that I probably know too much about are: the ethics of RPf/RPS writing (the main complaints, the main responses, and how communities or individuals fare differently according to the fandom), the dilemma of underage slashers/porn writers (I was one myself, and I know they're not uncommon, but there can be a whole slew of problems being in a fandom with underage people who are producing porny fic or art. I don't know, I just think it's an interesting topic over snacks), and "Fictional incest: okay because it's not real?" (this comes from my time in the SPN and Back to the Future fandoms. Also, Harry Potter and it's abundance of Weasleys. I'm a genetics major, so I know a bit too much about incest from a scientific standpoint, but it's been very interesting looking at different perspectives that people have for different scenarios).
I also had a conversation at a dinner party recently about the idea that there are people in fandom who are "doing it wrong". I'm in no way with it enough to lead that discussion, but there was someone at this party who hated a lot of the hardcore HP fanfic because "there are kids in that fandom!" And I think everyone knows one fan who goes too far and is too crazy, but is there a formal line that they cross, or should we all take the view that "your fandom experiences are just as valid as mine?" My boyfriend certainly spends far too much time analysing whatever the hell is happening in Power Rangers, but my fandom experiences? Somehow inferior to his (not bitter about that. Nope, not at all).
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Date: 2011-04-26 05:19 am (UTC)With Supernatural, I know that quite a few people attending have watched it/been involved in the fandom, and I suspect there's more that I don't know about who are at least familiar with it. Maybe look for a different angle to pimp it from? Rather than a straight intro, maybe do a thing about the Supernatural The Comedy, and show a bunch of the funny bits? Something like that is entertaining whether people have seen it before or not.
Oooh, the idea of Fandom: Ur Doing It Wrong is intriguing, and we're adding that to list of possible discussion topics - could be some good stuff about clash of expectations/traditions/ways Things Are Done, depending on your fannish background?
Some of the other topics you mentioned are ones we might steer away from having as set discussion topics (they might come up anyway). From our past experience, RPS/underage/incest tend to be things people have very set views on/have debated before and, while it seems like an interesting topic to throw open, in a large group it just tends to degenerate into people reiterating their entrenched positions and getting angry.
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Date: 2011-04-26 05:48 am (UTC)Doing It Wrong does have a very wide net. I keep running into the "to give concrit, or keep my mouth shut?" debate (which I am SO over), and some fandoms are really big on selling fannish items like shirts and badges while others are against making money off of someone else's creation.
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Date: 2011-04-26 06:46 am (UTC)Not rubbish! No suggestions are, we appreciate them all - it's just some things don't tend to work as well in practice as we'd like in theory!
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Date: 2011-04-26 07:45 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2011-05-29 09:46 am (UTC)"Sharing your fan activities"
Date: 2011-05-08 02:59 am (UTC)Re: "Sharing your fan activities"
Date: 2011-05-08 03:36 am (UTC)Re: "Sharing your fan activities"
Date: 2011-05-28 11:00 pm (UTC)Re: "Sharing your fan activities"
Date: 2011-05-29 12:34 am (UTC)I like that plan for the discussions.
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Date: 2011-05-29 08:19 am (UTC)Don't really have time to do anything new for this year.
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Date: 2011-06-02 09:47 am (UTC)Long answer: timetable is still being determined, we may schedule it, or it may be backup/possiblity for unspecified slots.
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Date: 2011-06-08 04:09 am (UTC)I'm not altogether sure what's involved in pimping as this is my very first con! But if I could sit through other people's, and then maybe do one for Henry V (I've got screencaps) and a very obscure book called The Flight of the Heron - if I'm not to intimidated?
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Date: 2011-06-08 10:43 am (UTC)The latter part of both days is going to be unscheduled, we have various pimps and some other stuff that's not gonna be included in the timetable - we'll see what people want to do. So if you want to put some stuff together and bring it along, and see at the time if you want to pimp your fandom out, feel free :)
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Date: 2011-06-08 12:04 pm (UTC)http://sinpozium.livejournal.com/14839.html?mode=reply
Looks like we will have space for some more informal adhoc presentations towards the end of the both days so if you're feeling brave by then (or not up to a longer slot) then that might work for you? Otherwise we can find you a spot elsewhen.
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Date: 2011-06-08 12:16 pm (UTC)